Episode 41 : Russell Cherrington and Steve Dillon

Russell Cherrington joins Ryan Danhauser and Jose Leitao to talk about the Cabal Cut, and Steve Dillon comes on later to tell us about the Oz Horror Con and the Nightbreed screening in Australia.  Donate and/or buy tickets here: Pozible Link.

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DANHAUSER: Welcome to episode 41 of the Clive Barker podcast. I’m Ryan and this is José Leitão.

LEITAO: Hey guys.

DANHAUSER: We had a special guest, Russell Cherrington. We had some kind of technical difficulties, so we were also supposed to have Steve Dillon Oz Horror Con. We ended up just having Russell Cherrington and got to talk to him quite a bit about Nightbreed the Cabal Cut. So that’s kind of what this episode was about.

LEITAO: Yeah. If Steve comes back later, because we were not sure there were some problem with the time zones, maybe we can add them to the end of the episode, I guess. So this is the episode where we talked to Russell Cherrington about the status of the Cabal Cut and the upcoming Oz Horror Con convention and the Cabal Cut screening there.

DANHAUSER: And if you end up hearing Steve Dillon on this episode, you’ll know that it’s because we ended up getting in touch with him after all.

DANHAUSER: Is there anything that you can tell us about the restoration or any progress that we didn’t know about yet?

CHERRINGTON: There isn’t anything officially new. It’s just that it is moving forward. People are interested in releasing the film. It’s all about kind of back scene negotiations where it’s both figures of money. It’s about what it will cost to restore it, what time scales would be, what formats It would come out, when it would come out, when the screenings will go on, until how soon after that that would come out. You know, basically, a lot more things are happening between Morgan Creek, Seraphim Inc, myself and companies to make this happen. So it’s in a very good place. It just you can’t announce something because you give people false hope.

DANHAUSER: Yeah. It’s all in flux right now.

CHERRINGTON: Yeah. It’s working towards a release. But you know, ideally when we first started talking to companies, we wanted to have the release to be late October, November, because of the Halloween season. Uh, who knows when it will be? I’m just itching to start working on it.

DANHAUSER: Did anything come of that footage in Ohio? Was there anything useful in that at all?

CHERRINGTON: No, nothing, I was saying, but because we haven’t got the budget. We haven’t collected the materials to do the final restoration. I haven’t seen it.

LEITAO: The work being done so far is excellent. And we have opened up the podcast now for other kinds of input and articles apart from the actual podcast episodes. So we are starting to invite contributors to write stuff about their experience watching Clive Barker films and reading Clive Barker’s books. We are now working in a full-length article about Occupy Midian and the restoration of the Cabal Cut. We’ll keep it spoiler free of course, but we will do an in-depth article. I’m working on it because I can’t go to the Portland, Oregon convention screening. I’m working with Ryan on a full-length article. That would be like a review of the Cabal Cut and we’ll try to make it a good thing to post on our website and then we’ll spread it around.

CHERRINGTON: Good. That’s fantastic.

LEITAO: We’re in a privileged position to explain to people what’s been going on since the beginning. We can gather up all the little bits of information about it and make a whole top to bottom explanation of how things are going and why you should watch the cabal cut and support it, why it’s one of the top extended cuts as seen in that article that you just posted again yesterday. So…

CHERRINGTON: Well, it is fantastic. Just the fact that it gets into those articles and all the time people are interested in it and…

DANHAUSER: …and it hasn’t been released yet, that was the thing that amazed me.

CHERRINGTON: Yeah, but people still really want to see it. I mean that’s the one thing that you see all the time on Occupy Midian. (Inaudible) the really great thing for Morgan Creek and anybody that wants to release it is that the audience is out there. Everything’s been signed, more than thirteen thousand people signed the petition. People really want to watch it.

LEITAO: Hopefully, after the blu-ray comes out, whenever it comes out, maybe eventually after the whole thing about buying the DVD and getting it to all the people that are interested in getting it. Maybe some conventions will start having screenings again up the DVD. Who knows? I don’t know if that’s legal or possible, but you know,

CHERRINGTON: It will belong to a company then. So, they want to publicize it, but they want to publicize it their way.

DANHAUSER: It’s funny ’cause horror conventions they play all kinds of just regular DVD release movies, like Monstermania, they were screening Hellraiser and there was a Hellraiser panel right after that.

CHERRINGTON: Yeah, true.

DANHAUSER: So I don’t know how all that works.

CHERRINGTON: There’s even talk, again for next year, about one of the big conventions doing a full Nightbreed reunion. So they’re going to want to screen it. So, it would be like everybody you can think of, but instead of them all being just guy turns up in England and this guy turns up he ever, it’d be like anybody that could go would be invited. It would be top to bottom, everybody. And it’s some of the thing that I’m excited about, but you know, it’s next year, so it’s a great thing to have behind the released really.

LEITAO: And then of course there would be more money involved because then there would be a whole marketing campaign and there would be money coming in from the blue rays, money being invested into it. So I guess that will make it easier to make these kind of big events like you’re talking about.

CHERRINGTON: Yeah. That’s completely my hope. It’s big events.

DANHAUSER: So, is there already some material for the documentary?

CHERRINGTON: Well, yeah, but then again, the documentary is very much being told about a lot of the moment. And I’m doing a lot of work in the background and try to arrange when that can be done. Nobody’s forgot that everybody that’s really involved and the documentary is really kind of busy and its preparation at the moment.

LEITAO: I’m figuring there would be a section in the documentary for all the restoration work being done. And that’s still going to happen. A lot of that stuff. So I guess I can see your point.

CHERRINGTON: Yeah. The documentary would have lots of people like the Doug Bradley thing where you know, you would have people read doubling themselves, lots of sign work or some visual work going on. And then people coming in to tell the story of their characters and their performances and all the special effects guys from the past. Image Animation people would all be involved. You know, it’s so huge. Potentially interviewing like between 30 and 50 people. Then there’s Clive himself, the master. You’ve got Clive, he’s got a story to tell, which I’m sure this is the time when he wants to tell it. So that was fabulous. You know, at the end of the day it’s Clive’s film.

LEITAO: The master imaginer.

DANHAUSER: This Portland screening, is there anything that we can say about that? That’s new information?

CHERRINGTON: The Portland one? Well, no. There’s a real hope of a very, very special guests coming to the Sunday screening. If anyone is coming, the Sunday screening looks like it will have a special-special guest who’s never seen the movie even if he’s one of the key characters in the film. And it turns out he lives up near Portland. But I’ve actually emailed him and asked if he would like to take part. He said that he wants to and we will surely have somebody to make it extra special on Sunday.

DANHAUSER: Well that’d be great. Yeah, that’s definitely worth staying up late on a Sunday night.

CHERRINGTON: What time is the screening?

DANHAUSER: I think it’d at seven, right?

LEITAO: Yeah, Saturday is at 1:00 PM, I think. And then Sunday is at 7:00 PM

DANHAUSER: Saturday is at 2:00 PM now. That’s the way they posted it at the convention.

CHERRINGTON: So, yeah, I’ve got three hour window to make a proper introduction to our audience, then the movie and half an hour Q & A afterwards. And then I’m taking for the guys 10 of the one-sheets, a bunch of the smaller posters and I’ve got 6 t-shirts left I’m taking out. There’s a King Rocker t-shirt, 3XL’s and I’ve got three Large left.

LEITAO: There were just a hundred so if anybody’s listening go and get your t shirts before they run out cause there were only 100 made.

CHERRINGTON: There aren’t that many one-sheets as well. The big one sheets have always been popular. What we’ll do with those is limit them to ten per screening, which gives fans a chance that really want one. So that stuff is going on and we are really busy with the film, trying to make things happen. I’m doing exciting things like going to Australia and Eerie Pennsylvania… I mean it’s really good. Then I’ll get home from Portland and I’m home for one night and then I will be in Darlington which looks like the last UK screening before the release happens.

DANHAUSER: So with this Australia one, I was going to ask Steve, the money that he’s raising on that site, pozible. Is that to bring Nightbreed there or is that for the whole convention?

CHERRINGTON: Well, I think what he’s going to do is to look up his funding to cover the flights and things like that. And I think that what he’s looking to do is pre-sell as much as possible and give those fans an experience so that he can then make the screening happen. Because to get out there is about 900 UK pounds, which isn’t cheap. There’s a 22-hour flight each way. So, it’s a huge commitment and because it’s a 22-hour flight, it has to fly me in to get there Wednesday cause you’re going to be jet-lagged. And then he wants to do two screenings. As usual, people say bring it to so and so, bring it to Sydney, and they don’t realize that this is the amount of effort that Steve’s gone to bring the films Australia in the first place. 

DANHAUSER: Yeah, Right and then these people say I don’t want to drive that far.

CHERRINGTON: Which is kind of silly, isn’t it? It happens all the time. Like there’s people who say, ‘Why don’t you bring the film to San Francisco?’ Well, San Francisco and Portland in my mind, aren’t that far, I mean, nobody can’t physically go to every single place.

DANHAUSER: I know, that’s the thing that people don’t understand because we start to forget that we’ve been there, in Occupy Midian since the beginning. But people come and go, and we get all these new people. They’ll come in they don’t understand that the movie is on a tour. They just think that it’s just screening in places and then you can do more than one at a time and stuff like that. We have to explain to them each time it’s an event. It’s not just a screening.

CHERRINGTON: Yeah. Like I said, it’s kind of fine. The enthusiasm is fantastic. And you would take it to as many places as you can. But the message here is that it is pretty near to its next step, which is actually to be released.

LEITAO: Oh yeah. And then when it’s on Bluray, then people can watch it, literally, in their own living room. So that way they don’t have to say, “can you bring it to my hometown?”  guess what? You’re going to be able to buy it and seeing you in your living room, which is going to be great. 

DANHAUSER: But Portland will be the first time that it’s for me to see it on, on an actual theater screen instead of those kind of hokey convention screens. 

LEITAO: Well the Empire cinema was the big cinema right?

CHERRINGTON: Yeah, that was the hugest one as well, that one and Chicago were the biggest screens. They were kind of huge, I mean it’s much better at cinemas… 

DANHAUSER: Yeah, that’s the aspect of it that I’m looking forward to.

CHERRINGTON: Conventions… they don’t set it up to give to the fans of cinema an experience, so they don’t upgrade. They don’t upgrade to a projection.

DANHAUSER: And the seating is…chairs that they dragged in from a little storage area.

CHERRINGTON: I’ll tell you the one that’s screening in Toronto. It was fantastic at the TIFF cinema. That was great too. But a lot of the UK ones have actually been at cinemas as well. We haven’t done conventions in the UK. So conventions are great because you get to meet a wide variety of people, but they are not a greatest place for screenings unless the convention actually says ‘we’re going to make this is cinema experience.’

DANHAUSER: The nice thing about that is then you have the people at autograph tables, which you need and probably wouldn’t have as much in a cinema.

CHERRINGTON: True, true.

LEITAO: At the end of the Portland, Oregon screening, there’s going to be a fan event at Atomic Pizza, which Ryan is taken care of. And I’ll be there as a virtual presence. So hopefully we’ll get to talk to other fans after the screening.

CHERRINGTON: Yeah. Lovely. I mean it’s great. It’s for them to have that experience and make them ask, you know, we did a one on one style questions as they want. It’s fantastic. Yeah. Although it’s like an AGM and then your annual general meeting.

DANHAUSER: Maureen said she would be there. So if anyone wants to go to, if they want to see Nightbreed in Australia, put some money. I think that it was only $10 donation gets them a ticket. Probably 10 Australian dollars.

CHERRINGTON: Yeah. I’m sure he’ll do really well on the night. But it’s just getting people four months out to buy a ticket, isn’t it?

DANHAUSER: And then do they have a location?

CHERRINGTON: Yeah. Isn’t really on the poster.

DANHAUSER: Well, and that, that was the thing. Yeah. Cause it said, uh, he asked me to change the poster so that it didn’t show the location cause like I think he was still working that out.

CHERRINGTON: All right. Okay. 

DANHAUSER: He had done a poster where he cut off the address on the bottom.

LEITAO: Well it is in Melbourne and the website for the conventions is ozhorrorcon.com and we mentioned the pozible on the last episode and we’re going to mention it again: it’s www.pozible.com/project/17269. They are right now at 1,656 $ pledged of their $3,500 target. So yeah, 31 days to go guys.

CHERRINGTON: Yeah, I’m just watching it: 16 56. It’s what it says, that’s where they got to. 27 supporters 31 days to go.

LEITAO: They have their rewards set for the people who contribute and some of the rewards are pretty attractive: You got the tickets to watch the screening. A book that they’re making — there’s going to be a berserker chapter. There’s going to be like the names of the people who have pledged to contributes to this event. It’s going to be the Book of the Tribes. You can be in the if you pledge for this project. So, go ahead and do it. I’m going to do it today!

CHERRINGTON: Yeah. Cool. But, you know, it’s like I’m really excited to go to Australia and I’m really excited that those funds will get to see it. Yeah.

LEITAO: Yeah. It’s going to be great.

CHERRINGTON: Alright, you guys, I think we covered it enough, haven’t we? Because we can’t cover it any more without Steve. I’m going to see you in a week anyway and I’ll sign in afterwards.

DANHAUSER: Is there anything that Occupy Midian members can do right now to help out with the spreading of the word or to help out with the restoration?

CHERRINGTON: Every little bit of support that everybody does all the time is out of this world. so justkeep doing it. So everyone there coming to screenings, wanting it to happen just takes us nearer and nearer and nearer. And like I said today when I put up the thing from Total Film, we couldn’t go there without the fans and it’s amazing what they’ve done. 

DANHAUSER: It’s been astounding, just the amount of signatures on the petition alone.

LEITAO: If you guys have got a blog, go to screenings — blog about it. Spread the trailer that was made by Jimmi Johnson and Russell Cherrington. Spread that stuff around. Email magazines telling you want to see that. If you know any events that are going on, just talk to the event organizers, see what you can work out. Hopefully this year we might get the blu-ray double combo with the Theatrical Cut and the Cabal Cut. That’d be great. I’m really looking forward to it and thanks. Thanks again for, for keeping us informed, Russell.

DANHAUSER: All right, well I’m going to be there on Thursday morning at like seven o’clock in the morning. It’s when I’m my plane is arriving.

CHERRINGTON: Well, I guess I’m in Portland. I get it about 11 o’clock, on the Friday. Well, I’m going to go on to finish off the movie I’m watching. You guys take care, cheers.

DANHAUSER:  We just had a mix up with the time zones, but here it is Steve Dillon, talking about Oz Horror Con and the Cabal Cut screening in Australia.

DANHAUSER: All right, so just joining us we have Steve Dillon from Oz Horror Con. So can you tell us about Oz horror con? Is this a recurring convention?

DILLON: It is, yeah. Oz Horror Con was set up last year. We had two conventions so far: One in October, which is a great, absolutely fantastic affair, if very small (small beginnings and all that). And we followed that up with one in January, which is significantly larger and it’s still great fun and a big sort of family feel to it. A really atmospheric location that we chose for both. The first one was in a haunted pub in Melbourne called the Royal Melbourne Hotel. And we had some ghostbuster people — the Australian Paranormal Society, showing people, the haunted cell and talking about the ghosts that inhabited the place. So really atmospheric, it’s fantastic. Everybody loved that. Yeah. And the second one was just down the road because we enjoyed that one so much. We moved from one of these larger specialist’s convention forums. We moved it down the road to a place called Donkey Wheel House, which is like 150 years old, which is pretty old for Australia. And in the basements of that place, they’ve got all these archways and it’s an old wine cellar that used to be a nunnery. So lots of atmosphere, lots of spookiness to the place. And again, everybody absolutely loved that. So we try to keep that theme going for Oz Horror Con make it atmospheric above everything else.

LEITAO: Cool. So, it’s called Donkey Wheel House?

DILLON: Yes. You can look that one up. 

DANHAUSER: And that’s where, that’s where this one is going to be. Where you’re screening the Nightbreed Cabal Cut.

DILLON: It’s where it’s advertised to be at the moment. It’s not been confirmed for various reasons, but it’s certainly the number one place I would like to choose. It will be in Melbourne, but we do have several other venues in mind as well, some of which are dedicated sort of screening cinema locations, some of which are more indie and more atmospheric like Donkey Wheel House.

LEITAO: Sounds good. 

DILLON: Yeah, it’s going to be awesome.

DANHAUSER: We know about Nightbreed and the Cabal Cut because that’s kind of the area where we’re most familiar, what else have you got going on at Oz Horror Con?

DILLON: So we’re still planning the next convention, but we’re also involved with things as well. So we’ve just kicked off a short-story writing, not really competition, just like a little program to get people more involved in writing horror in the amateur sense. We also have organized and been involved with screenings. So, we had an exclusive screening, of Mama, which was very, very good. And people like that. So we were teaming up with lots of different people to try and raise the profile of horror and establish the community in Australia. So, people like the Australian Paranormal Society, the Australian Horror Writers Association, and lots of independents as well, graphic novelists for example. Lots of good graphic novels coming out in the horror genre in Australia. Yeah, I’m building up the community slowly. That’s the idea.

LEITAO: Sounds good. So I’m guessing you’re old fan of Nightbreed, I guess.

DILLON: Oh, for sure. Yeah. Old is the operative word. Um, longstanding is the word I prefer. Yeah, of course. I mean, I’ve been a big Clive Barker fan since, since 1987. I interviewed Clive for my magazine I was writing back then, it was a role-playing magazine called the Adventure. So I interviewed Clive for the launch of Weaveworld up in Liverpool, which is my hometown as well as Clive’s and lots of other good people, many of which you’ve had on, on your show here. So people like Pete Atkins, Ramsey Campbell, he was also at the launch of Weaveworld with Clive. So, I’ve gotten to speak to Ramsey as well, there. You know, it was fantastic. I kind of discovered or came across Clive through the Weaveworld launch and after that I was a big fan of Clive’s everything —  Nightbreed being one of them.

DANHAUSER: Oh, you had said that you were going to be interviewing Chris McCorkindale. Yes. Uh, at some point here in the near future, actually, like next week, I think.

DILLON: We’ve currently got a schedule for next week, if I can get the time zones right. Chris has kindly agreed to that. it’s really just for interest’s sake, to put on the website and generate a bit more of interest around Nightbreed.

LEITAO: Can you tell us the website for the Oz Horror Con?

DILLON: Sure. It’s https://www.ozhorrorcon.com/

LEITAO: All right, it’s easy, right? The last Australian horror film that I’ve seen might’ve been Wolf Creek, from 2005. I think it was an independent.

DILLON: It’s a very interesting question. There’s a lot of fantastic talent in Australia that’s beginning to bloom. If you like this, there’s some challenges in Australia, not least of which is the geography of the place. I’m in Perth at the moment. I’m 3000 kilometers away from the nearest major city. Adelaide, Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane are all over on the east coast. So there are challenges, but there’s some amazing talent as well. And as you say, Wolf Creek was one of the films that come first to mind when you talk about Australian horror. And they’re actually in production now for Wolf Creek 2. So the last Oz Horror Con we had Aaron Sterns, who’s the co- writer of Wolf Creek 2. He’s also writing the backstory for the original novel. The original movie Wolf Creek. So a lot of good things. He was also involved in one called Rogue, which you may have known about. Australian horror tends to have a lot to do with the outback and large animals and a reptiles. 

LEITAO: Yes.

DILLON: And that kind of thing.

LEITAO: Places you can get lost in easily. And even the environment, it’s kind of hostile towards you. You get all sorts of like poisonous animals around.

DILLON: And as you’re going around Australia, you get the feeling of that as well,

LEITAO: And of course drop bears (laughter), you had to be careful with the drop bears there as well. So you are trying to crowdfund the event for Oz Horror Con and especially the Cabal Cut Screening.

DILLON: Yeah, that’s right. We were using a campaign on pozible.com. For those who don’t know it, a lot of people in Australia use it for startup campaigns; It’s like Kickstarter. (https://www.pozible.com/project/ozmidian). Midian being the operative word, of course. One of the interesting things about the location for the event is that we want it to be atmospheric. we have a lot of cosplayers in Australia, a lot of cosplay conventions and so on. So you can imagine Nightbreed is the ideal fill and a lot of cases the ideal location for all these people turning up,  and basically recreating our own little version of Midian. Even Australia.

LEITAO: Absolutely. I mean, I’ve seen from other screenings around the world that, uh, often hands will show up dressed as characters, some of their favorite characters, like, like Shuna Sassi or Peloquin or Kinski, they’ll show up in full costume. That’s amazing. They take all that time to cosplay as their favorite character is really adds to the experience. 

DILLON: Yeah, absolutely. Right. And if you’ve seen my Facebook, you’ll know that I tend to post cosplay as Pinhead. It’s actually a mask that I wear really for convenience, but it’s one that I hand-painted using acrylics. So it gets a lot of reaction from people. And that’s one of the triggers for Oz Horror Con, I used to go to these conventions — the large events like Comic-Con and Armageddon and Supernova and I’d be stopped like a hundred times in a day for a photograph by strangers purely because they love the Pinhead mask and the costume. So that was one of the triggers. We’re like, ‘Hey, people really like this stuff. Why not bring a whole load of likeminded people together, build our community and find our tribe.’

LEITAO: It’s really exciting because it’s going to be the first time that the Cabal Cut is going to go to the southern hemisphere and across the world to Australia. There’s a lot of people from the general area there are trying to say, ‘Hey, we want to see it too. And I’m from New Zealand, I’m from Sydney…’

DILLON: That’s what I was talking about before: It’s a huge country and you know, you can drive between some of these cities, but it’s a long, long drive, right? So it gets very costly when you have to fly and hotels and so on. So ideally we’d like to take it around the whole of Australia and maybe even into New Zealand. If Russell Cherrington has the, has the energy and stamina for that. But, it depends on the fans, right? If people don’t, don’t pledge their money or, or email me. And there’s a couple of people started campaigns and in Perth and in Brisbane.

LEITAO: We were just talking to, to Russell Cherrington and he was explaining that these things cost money, flights and you know, expenses. This is not a circuit where it’s like, okay, these movies have a marketing campaign around it and, or there’s a distribution company distributing this. No, it’s just single events that are taking place in conventions and horror film festivals and stuff. And there is no money to go around to everybody’s city. So people have to realize that.

DANHAUSER: I can feel their pain. I mean, I live in Alaska and if I want to go anywhere to anything, I have to fly. I’m going to this Portland one right now and we’re leaving at one o’clock in the morning and we’re arriving in Portland at seven o’clock in the morning.

DILLON: It takes dedication. I would have loved to have gone to the Portland, screening myself. I do get to the states quite a bit and I’m looking in that respect, but it’s still haven’t managed to be anywhere where the Cabal Cut has been showing. So I thought, ‘Well, let’s, let’s bring it over to Australia. Yeah, if the mountain won’t come to Muhammad, then Muhammad must go to the mountain. And a lot of people don’t realize that the cost is borne by the likes of myself and Russell’s out of pocket expenses. It’s not being funded by a large marketing campaign or distribution company, so people have to pledge and pop up.

LEITAO: Absolutely. Right now you, you’re almost like halfway on the pledging.

DILLON: It’s considerably more than that. When you add up the $10, they’ll get converted to $50, right. Because that’s like a deposit. So you’ve got quite a few of those to tally up. We’re more than halfway. We will make it, we just need people to sign on the dotted line and realize that it’s a no risk thing. You know, it doesn’t go ahead, they don’t pay any money. It doesn’t cost them anything. 

LEITAO: And there are rewards in store if you contribute, right? There is a Book of the Tribes being prepared where everybody who pledges will be named, right?

DILLON: That’s right. Yeah. And depending on what you pledge, your name will be in a different section so all the details for that at all on the Pozable site. And a copy of that book will be going to Russell and another copy to Clive Barker Himself as a, as a memento of how much the fans in Australia love his stuff and Clive’s works. I wish that somebody else was organizing this and I could sign up and go to this, but hey, I’m excited. I’m pumped. 

LEITAO: Oh yeah. Well that sounds great. You know, Cabal is going to the land of Oz.

DILLON: To the land over the rainbow where the monsters live, it’s, it’s coming here. I’m saving the best ‘till last. 

LEITAO: I hope everybody who’s listening to this decides to help out. I’m going to contribute today and I’m sure Ryan probably already did…

DANHAUSER: Not yet.

DILLON: So $2 minimum, you can get your name in the book of the tribe. So, Come on

LEITAO: There’s still 31 days to go. There’s still plenty of time, but the quicker you do it, the better. The quicker this will get funded.

DILLON: And if there’s is a rush on it. We have to stop selling the tickets and that’s what tends to happen with this is there’s a rush in the last couple of weeks or so. Right.

LEITAO: So it sounds good. Very exciting. Cabal is going to Oz over the rainbow, where the monsters live. That is a very fitting Peloquin quote right there. Thanks for talking to us and letting us know about the Oz Horror Con Cabal Cut screening being planned. We did have a mix-up originally with the time zones, but that’s been sorted out. So you’ll be listening to this at the ending of the episode. The first part is us talking to Russell Cherrington. So, he was also plugging the Oz Horror Con. He has explained to us what’s going on with the Cabal Cut right now. So that was very informative. So we’ll be posting this soon. 

DANHAUSER: I’m going to try to get it up by Wednesday just because you know, then I’m leaving that night too. 

DILLON: Portland’s going to be great fun, I’m sure.

DANHAUSER: Oh yeah, yeah. I’m looking forward to it.

DILLON: And listen just on a personal note. I love what you guys are doing. there’s a lot of people really appreciate of what you’re doing. Again, doing it for the passion and the love, you know, that’s what the fan base is all about, right?

LEITAO: Oh yeah, yeah. We sacrificed a lot of weekends for this.

DILLON: I’m sure. Yeah.

LEITAO: All right, so thanks again.

DILLON: Yeah. Cheers guys. Thanks again.

DANHAUSER: Alright. Have a good morning.

DILLON: Yeah, thanks. It’s an early one.

DANHAUSER: Yeah, I see you later. Right.

DILLON: Bye. Bye. Bye.

DANHAUSER: All right, well that wraps up episode 41 with Russell Cherrington and Steve Dillon.