The End of Pinhead is Near!!!
Over at the site theguardian there’s a nice little article about Pinhead and how Scarlet Gospels is going to be the end of him. As soon as this book is in hands I’m going to read it from cover to cover in one sitting. I truly believe this book is going to be that good. I’m anxious to see how Barker has chosen to get rid of the Pope from Hell. I’m sure he’ll go out in style.
Here’s a link to the article: http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/06/hellraiser-stories-end-novel-the-scarlet-gospel-clive-barker
Also, thanks to Fifth Dominion Facebook member Matt Packer for sharing the article.
Apologies, “those” are on hold for me, my good man…Hahahahaha!!! (Seriously, tho…)
LOL!
We’ll see. I have a feeling it won’t be like anything we’re expecting. Can’t wait.
Also really interesting that this was a response to Hellraiser Inferno. ““[Hellraiser Inferno] is just an abomination. I want to actively go on record as saying I warn people away from the movie. It’s really terrible and it’s shockingly bad, and should never have been made. So I want to give Pinhead a good send-off. I want to do it right. If we are going to get rid of the old guy, let’s do it with some style,” said the novelist in 2000. “Because after this there will be no more Pinhead stories. Because this story is the end of Pinhead. This story will mark his death.”
In a weird way I guess Inferno did do something good after all.
The above photo brings me back. I remember arguing with some poor soul at cenobite.com because I put out the controversial idea that Clive knew more about Hellraiser than we did and he didn’t have to end his novel on a space station. Alan Smithee, be damned!
I’ve poured over CB’s quotes at Revelations a couple times a year for the better part of a decade. In that time SG has grown into a novel, it’s been rewritten a bunch of times and then he excised a good portion of it. Everything quoted there could be totally different now, so I honestly have no idea what to expect. This is exciting because I don’t have a clue now and I’m not reading anymore about the novel until I’ve finished the final page.
I remember something about the SG was going to be over 1000 pages but I guess that was rumor. Or he decided to do some heavy editing after looking at a finished draft of it and wasn’t pleased.
And Clive Barker does know more about Hellraiser than we do so I’m glad you put out that “controversial idea” Dave.
Rob, I remember Clive said it was over 2000 handwritten manuscript pages. He writes on every other line in a sprawling scrawl and then makes notes, changes and drawings all over the place. I saw a few of his original pages in one of my limited editions and one of them featured a circle of text wrapping around the page.
Anyway, 2000 pages of that was still supposed to give us an Imajica sized book, and I was initially surprised to read it was 350 or so pages. Then I remembered he said he was cutting out the Christ on Golgotha part because it seemed to belong in a different story (Please let it belong in the third book of the Art.) Maybe that part was a lot bigger than we thought it would be…Can’t wait for Spring!
Is this the same Dave from Cenobite.com that has the profile pic of Harry D’Amour? I remember you. My member name was Leatherchain. We’ve had a lot of good conversations over there and I think you were the one who mentioned to me about SC being a very large book at the start.
Someone told that both Christ and Lucifer were supposed to show up in Scarlet Gospels. Any truth to that?
Leatherchain! I remember you. Nice to meet you again! Yeah, I’ve used Harry as my avatar just about everywhere.
Clive mentioned Christ and Lucifer being in it before, but that was several re-writes ago. He once scuttled an entire book and started over from scratch during the final draft, so who knows anymore? Harry was supposed to see a vision of Christ on Golgotha, and my theory was that it was going to be like something that happens to a character in Everville. That part has evidently been excised, though, so no one knows if Christ still makes a cameo.
Also, there was much debate about Lucifer and what this might mean about the hell in Hellraiser. When I first read The Hellbound Heart, the part when Frank saw their world as a vision of blackened wings made me think about fallen angels…It’s just that when we have all these movies and comics that weren’t written by Clive we get conflicting ideas about what it is supposed to be. One of the comics said that Leviathan created all the religions, for example. If we only view The Hellbound Heart and Hellraiser as canon, anything is still possible.
Years ago I tried to make Harry’s current view on the demon that haunts him fit in with Hellraiser and the Iad. My theory was that the Cenobites and their hell were like the anti-Quiddity: it’s made up from the darkest fears and dreams of mankind, and we all make our own demons…Or something like that. I readily admit that I’m probably completely wrong. I don’t know what to expect anymore.